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You have a board reporting center?

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Yeah, this is Arshad Kutty, I'm Newman Police Department.

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Yes, sir.

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And one of my officers about three days ago had spotted the thing.

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I'll let you talk to him.

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He wasn't too sure he would have reported, but I told him he'd probably better.

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Okay.

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So I'll let you talk to Officer.

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Thank you.

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Okay.

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How you doing?

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Yes, sir.

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About, uh, let me see the, close the date.

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Close the date, man.

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Thursday, yeah.

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Yeah.

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14.

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Yeah, 14.

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It's July 14th, must have been about nine o'clock.

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And, uh, I was looking, I guess it was east.

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And I was looking at two planes that were flying on top of each other.

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They looked like they were flying very close together.

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That's what brought my attention to it.

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I just kept staring at the planes, you know, they had their lights on because it was getting

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dark.

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And as I stared at the planes, all of a sudden, right above the plane, I saw a plane.

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All of a sudden, I, right above the planes were, uh, was this big craft.

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It was huge compared to the, uh, the plane, the size of the plane.

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And, uh, it looked like it was just kind of gliding, going right along with the plane,

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staying right with it.

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And, uh, and I was with a group of four or five people.

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And right away I told them, I said, look at this thing, you know.

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And I grabbed my best friend and I grabbed him and I pointed at it and he couldn't see

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it.

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The funny thing about the craft was that it was, it was almost the same color as the sky

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at that time.

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And I think that's what made it really hard to see.

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Like I stared at those planes for, uh, good two minutes before I even realized that that

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huge craft was even above them.

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And, uh, the planes had lights and this craft didn't have any lights.

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That was another difference.

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And this thing was, it was cigar shaped, but it had fins in both ends.

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Okay.

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What time was that again?

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That was about, uh, uh, nine o'clock in the evening, nine p.m.

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And it wasn't completely dark then?

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No, it wasn't.

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Okay.

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I think the sun was just about down, but it still wasn't completely dark.

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Okay.

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Now I need a few details on that vehicle.

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Do you have any estimate on its size?

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Can you compare it with anything?

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Well, I really can't because I don't know how big the planes were enough.

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The planes were what I think they were.

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I would estimate it to be, uh, maybe, let's see, 25 yards maybe.

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Okay.

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25 yards maybe longer than that.

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Did those aircraft appear to be private aircraft?

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Yeah, that's what I thought they were.

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Okay.

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And did the, uh, the object itself have any lights on?

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No, I didn't have any lights at all.

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Okay.

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Did you see any openings?

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No.

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The only thing I noticed was the fins and the, uh, the shape.

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Uh-huh.

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And like I said, it was almost the same color as the sky.

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But I didn't, I just, I never took my eye off of it.

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Okay.

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And I never took my eye off of it and I never seen no lights.

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And I stood there for about a minute and a half trying to, uh, get my, uh, my buddy

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to, uh, see it.

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He couldn't see it.

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At that time, the right, when I was trying to get his passion towards the craft, the

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planes went one way and then the craft decided to go the other way.

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And so I couldn't say that they were right above the planes anymore, you know.

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I was pointing in a different direction and it was moving very slow.

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And then when it started moving, it kept moving and moving.

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He didn't spot it until it looked like a star.

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It was gone and it was, it was, uh, too far away.

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It must have been moving at tremendous rate of speed.

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But then it just looked like a star real far away.

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Okay.

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Now which direction were you looking when you spotted that?

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I was looking, um, east.

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East, okay.

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And which direction was the object moving?

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The, well, at first the object was moving south.

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Uh-huh.

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And, uh, maybe at 30 seconds after I spotted it, it changed directions.

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It was following the plane.

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It was right above the plane.

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And, uh, about 30 seconds after I spotted it, it just, it went the opposite direction.

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Okay.

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How about sound?

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No sound.

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I can hear the plane sound.

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Okay.

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Any estimate on altitude?

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Um, not really too good on that, but, uh, I'd say it was about, uh, 15 stories high.

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It wasn't real high.

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Okay.

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It wasn't real high at all.

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Okay.

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How were the sky conditions?

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Clear.

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Okay.

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Wasn't a cloud in the sky?

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In total, how long do you, would you say that you watch that?

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Uh, I would say about three, four minutes.

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Okay.

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Did you watch it until it went out of sight?

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Yeah.

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I stared at it even as it looked like a star when it, far away.

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Okay.

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At any time, other than when it looked like a star, did you notice any light glow around it?

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I didn't notice any light glow until it, it, it started to look like a star.

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You know, when it got real far away.

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There wasn't any light glow at all.

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It just, uh, it was the color of it, I guess, would be sort of a silver gray color.

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And in the evening, I guess it's almost the same color as the sky.

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Okay.

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Did this, did this thing make any motions or maneuvers while it was in flight?

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That is, I mean,

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No.

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Deviate from a straight line course at all.

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No, it didn't.

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It just went, uh, in a horizontal type of movement, crossed.

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Right.

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And it went, it was following the planes and it changed directions and then, uh, it, it took off.

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It looked like it was going from, you know, like left to right.

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Right.

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Okay.

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From A to B.

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Did the department receive any other reports from that?

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No.

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That was the only one.

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Okay.

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I think we had a report about a month or two ago.

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Okay.

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And they spotted one.

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It was, uh, I guess it wasn't too far away from where I spotted this one.

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In fact, this one must have been about, uh, I would say approximately a half a mile east of the PG&E plant there.

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Oh, yes.

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And the other officers that were on graveyard shift, there's two officers we have on duty,

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spotted one, and it was right above the, uh, right above the same PG&E plant.

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Yes.

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Okay.

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Well, we sure appreciate you reporting this and, uh, if we can get any more information on it,

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well, I'll get back to you and let you know.

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Right.

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We really appreciate your cooperation.

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Fine.

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Thank you.

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Bye.

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Bye.